Builds

Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. (bottom of Ret) reads “up to 33% of Intellect” at rank 1. If it’s 100% at 3/3, the 23/0/28 builds win for healing and damage. If it’s 33%, deep Holy is just as good and immune to the nerf everyone expects.

Nothing is confirmed; the beta caps at level 20, then 30 after about two weeks, so no capstone is testable before launch.

Row 32 was added on September 15 and keeps the next free number rather than renumbering the table. The Holy channel’s September 17 Shockadin (build 50) is in the Shockadin table below.

Verdicts

1. Champion Healer: the right raid build today, and the one you respec out of when the talent changes.
2. Steady variant: drops Infusion of LightInfusion of LightHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverYour Holy Shock and Flash of Light critical hits reduce the cast time of your next Holy Light cast within 15 sec by 1.0 sec.Requires 15 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. entirely, which is a mistake for PvE.
3. Fast Light variant: no Divine FavorDivine FavorHoly · Max rank 1 · Moved37 Mana | Instant | 2 min cooldownWhen activated, gives your next Flash of Light, Holy Light, or Holy Shock spell a 100% critical effect chance.Requires 15 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage., which is your on-demand fast Holy Light. Build 1 is better.
4. Arena Vigil: coherent for arena, worst sustained mana of any option. PvP only.
5. Vigil Raid Healer: the only raid build with a group heal and the only one not hostage to Champion.
6. Champion Healer, Strike variant: the same 23/0/28 idea as build 1, posted as “the play for raids” on wowforevertalents and converted. Against build 1 it trades Voice of TruthVoice of TruthHoly · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverInstant | 3 min cooldownGrants you immunity to Silence and Interrupt effects. Lasts 6 sec.Requires 10 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. and Purifying PowerPurifying PowerHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Cleanse and Purify spells by 20% and reduces the cooldown of your Exorcism and Holy Wrath spells by 33%.Requires 10 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. for Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., and ConvictionConvictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3 plus Eye for an EyeEye for an EyeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicAll critical strikes against you cause 5% of the damage taken to the attacker as well. The damage caused by Eye for an Eye will not exceed 50% of the Paladin's total health.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. for Improved JudgementImproved JudgementRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicDecreases the cooldown of your Judgement ability by 2 sec.Requires 5 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. and VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. The channel’s reply that it looks like a tank-healing spec fits: it is build 1 leaning toward melee.

Build 7 (Sword-and-Board Shockadin) originated in the Ret channel. Build 50 was posted in the Holy channel on September 17 on Wowhead’s calculator and converted.

Verdicts

6. Melee Shockadin: every damage multiplier plus Intellect scaling. No Holy PowerHoly PowerHoly · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the critical strike chance of your Holy Shock spell by 3%, and all other spells by 1%.Requires 25 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., no threat reduction. Link repaired September 15: the original hand-encoded link had 54 points; this one follows the posted list (Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Unyielding FaithUnyielding FaithHoly · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicReduces the duration of Fear and Disorient effects on you by 15%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Purifying PowerPurifying PowerHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Cleanse and Purify spells by 20% and reduces the cooldown of your Exorcism and Holy Wrath spells by 33%.Requires 10 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated., Infusion of LightInfusion of LightHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverYour Holy Shock and Flash of Light critical hits reduce the cast time of your next Holy Light cast within 15 sec by 1.0 sec.Requires 15 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated., Divine PrecisionDivine PrecisionHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your chance to hit with Holy spells by 6%.Requires 20 points in Holy · Requires 1 point in Holy ShockMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/3, Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., Eye for an EyeEye for an EyeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicAll critical strikes against you cause 5% of the damage taken to the attacker as well. The damage caused by Eye for an Eye will not exceed 50% of the Paladin's total health.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Champion), with Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Spiritual FocusSpiritual FocusHoly · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicGives your Flash of Light, Holy Light, and Light's Vigil spells a 70% chance to not lose casting time when you take damage.Requires 5 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated., Voice of TruthVoice of TruthHoly · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverInstant | 3 min cooldownGrants you immunity to Silence and Interrupt effects. Lasts 6 sec.Requires 10 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. and Divine FavorDivine FavorHoly · Max rank 1 · Moved37 Mana | Instant | 2 min cooldownWhen activated, gives your next Flash of Light, Holy Light, or Holy Shock spell a 100% critical effect chance.Requires 15 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. as the row filler.
7. Sword-and-Board: a Season of Discovery habit. Seal of Righteousness needs about 30% more to match Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage..
8. Two-Hander Hybrid: the only Shockadin with a weapon spec, but trades a Champion rank for 6% hit. Link repaired September 15: the original did not meet the Two-Handed Specialization prerequisite; ConvictionConvictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. went to 4/5 and RepentanceRepentanceRetribution · Max rank 1 · Moved60 Mana | Instant | 20 yd range | 1 min cooldownPuts the enemy target in a state of meditation, incapacitating them for up to 6 sec. Any damage caused will awaken the target. Only works against Humanoids.Requires 20 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. and one VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. rank were dropped to fix it.
9. Vigil Shockadin: +15% Shock crit and a double Shock every 30 seconds. Wastes five points on IlluminationIlluminationHoly · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicAfter getting a critical effect from your Flash of Light, Holy Light, Light's Vigil, or Holy Shock heal spell you have a 40% chance to gain Mana equal to 50% of the base cost of the spell.Requires 15 points in Holy · Requires 3 points in ReverenceMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 2 text..
10. Damage-tuned Vigil Shockadin: build 9 with the healing points moved to Divine FavorDivine FavorHoly · Max rank 1 · Moved37 Mana | Instant | 2 min cooldownWhen activated, gives your next Flash of Light, Holy Light, or Holy Shock spell a 100% critical effect chance.Requires 15 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. and utility.
11. Hit-Capped Shockadin: the Holy channel’s answer to “how do I fit the hit talent”. Divine PrecisionDivine PrecisionHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your chance to hit with Holy spells by 6%.Requires 20 points in Holy · Requires 1 point in Holy ShockMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/3 and ReverenceReverenceHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverAllows 30% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting.Requires 10 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. in Holy; Two-Handed Weapon SpecializationTwo-Handed Weapon SpecializationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 20 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/3 and CrusadeCrusadeRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases all damage dealt by 1%. Increased by an additional 1% against Demon and Undead targets.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. instead of VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. in Ret. The math behind it: 9% melee hit and 18% spell hit are the caps, 2/3 gives 12%, the rest comes from gear and weapon skill, and a third point “is bad”. Compare with build 7, which is the same Holy tree with Sanctified JudgementSanctified JudgementRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverGives your Judgement ability a 100% chance to return 60% of the Mana cost of the judged seal.Requires 10 points in RetributionThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. and Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. instead.

From the Ret channel. Splits are read from the link encoding. Details on the Retribution page.

Rows 33 to 35 were added on September 15 from point lists and splits on the Ret page that previously had no link. Row 47 was posted in the Prot channel on September 15. Rows 48 and 49 are the first posted 21/0/30 links and supersede the reconstructed Panel Shockadin (34).

Verdicts

25. Twist Ret: the cleanest capstone build. Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and ReverenceReverenceHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverAllows 30% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting.Requires 10 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. in Holy; swap ReverenceReverenceHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverAllows 30% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting.Requires 10 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. for Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. if mana holds. Untestable in beta.
26. PrecisionPrecisionProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to hit with all spells and attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Ret: buys 3% hit with 8 Prot points. Several say slightly worse hit gear is the better trade.
27. Day-one Twist Ret: posted the night of the reveal, before the tooltips were read properly. A variant exists (see the Ret page). Superseded by 25.
28. Melee Shockadin, Ret-channel variant: Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. and Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. both, plus Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Cannot fit hit, 10% damage and Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. together. Compare with 6.
29. Intellect Hybrid: reveal-night draft with deeper Holy utility. Superseded by 28.
30. Deep Vigil Shockadin: the “31 Holy beats Champion” side of the argument, though the encoding reads 36 Holy. Ret only for Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text..
31. Hyjal Shockadin: “seems fine for shock, 3 points to put somewhere.” The hyjal.cc encoding cannot be read by the conversion tool and no point list was posted, so this is the one link still off talentsforever.com. Treat as a sketch.
32. Hit-Gear Twist Ret: build 25 with an 8-point Prot dip for PrecisionPrecisionProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to hit with all spells and attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., meant to be respecced out as hit gear improves. Reconstructed from the 7/8/36 split only: Holy is Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Prot is ToughnessToughnessProtection · Max rank 5 · MovedIncreases your armor value from items by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. 5 and PrecisionPrecisionProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to hit with all spells and attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3, Ret is build 25 minus Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. All talent choices beyond the split are mine.
33. Panel Shockadin: the 21/0/30 split several people read the panel as pointing at, with the open question of what it presses. Reconstructed from the split only: Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. with Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Unyielding FaithUnyielding FaithHoly · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicReduces the duration of Fear and Disorient effects on you by 15%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Voice of TruthVoice of TruthHoly · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverInstant | 3 min cooldownGrants you immunity to Silence and Interrupt effects. Lasts 6 sec.Requires 10 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. and Divine FavorDivine FavorHoly · Max rank 1 · Moved37 Mana | Instant | 2 min cooldownWhen activated, gives your next Flash of Light, Holy Light, or Holy Shock spell a 100% critical effect chance.Requires 15 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage.; Ret takes Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3/3 with BenedictionBenedictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicReduces the Mana cost of all instant cast spells and abilities by 10%.This rank read from footage; other ranks estimated., Improved JudgementImproved JudgementRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicDecreases the cooldown of your Judgement ability by 2 sec.Requires 5 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., ConvictionConvictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Sanctified JudgementSanctified JudgementRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverGives your Judgement ability a 100% chance to return 60% of the Mana cost of the judged seal.Requires 10 points in RetributionThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated., Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., Pursuit of JusticePursuit of JusticeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicIncreases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 8%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Sacred ArbiterSacred ArbiterRetribution · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverIncreases the damage of your Holy Strike ability by 10% and causes it to refresh all Judgement effects on the target.Requires 15 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., CrusadeCrusadeRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases all damage dealt by 1%. Increased by an additional 1% against Demon and Undead targets.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and RepentanceRepentanceRetribution · Max rank 1 · Moved60 Mana | Instant | 20 yd range | 1 min cooldownPuts the enemy target in a state of meditation, incapacitating them for up to 6 sec. Any damage caused will awaken the target. Only works against Humanoids.Requires 20 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage.. Every talent is my filler around the split.
34. Endgame Ret, no Pursuit: the screenshot that dropped Pursuit of JusticePursuit of JusticeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicIncreases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 8%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. for 2/2 Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Most disagreed. Reconstructed: the stated talents are Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/2, CrusadeCrusadeRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases all damage dealt by 1%. Increased by an additional 1% against Demon and Undead targets.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Instrument of LawInstrument of LawRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cast time of your Hammer of Wrath by 1.0 sec, and reduces all threat you generate by 20% while Righteous Fury is not active.Requires 25 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., Improved JudgementImproved JudgementRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicDecreases the cooldown of your Judgement ability by 2 sec.Requires 5 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. 2/2, ConvictionConvictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 5/5 and no Pursuit of JusticePursuit of JusticeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicIncreases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 8%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.; the rest is build 25’s Ret core with Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., and Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. plus Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. in Holy as my filler.
35. Shock Ret, two-hander: “no twist, yes shock.” Build 28’s core with Two-Handed Weapon SpecializationTwo-Handed Weapon SpecializationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 20 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3/3 and one VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. point, paid for with Divine PrecisionDivine PrecisionHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your chance to hit with Holy spells by 6%.Requires 20 points in Holy · Requires 1 point in Holy ShockMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 1/3 and no Infusion of LightInfusion of LightHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverYour Holy Shock and Flash of Light critical hits reduce the cast time of your next Holy Light cast within 15 sec by 1.0 sec.Requires 15 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated.. Posted in the Prot channel by someone deciding between tanking and shocking.
36. Shock Ret, Command: posted September 16 as “so this is the build we’re going for Ret right?” Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. and Divine FavorDivine FavorHoly · Max rank 1 · Moved37 Mana | Instant | 2 min cooldownWhen activated, gives your next Flash of Light, Holy Light, or Holy Shock spell a 100% critical effect chance.Requires 15 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. with Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. and Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.; Ret keeps Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3/3, Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Sacred ArbiterSacred ArbiterRetribution · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverIncreases the damage of your Holy Strike ability by 10% and causes it to refresh all Judgement effects on the target.Requires 15 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., CrusadeCrusadeRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases all damage dealt by 1%. Increased by an additional 1% against Demon and Undead targets.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. The reply: if you are picking Shock you want the spell hit talent, and this has none.
37. Shock Ret, two-hander, oxm: posted September 17 as “the optimal DPS spec is taking Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage.”. Two-Handed Weapon SpecializationTwo-Handed Weapon SpecializationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 20 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3/3 and Pursuit of JusticePursuit of JusticeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicIncreases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 8%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. in place of Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and CrusadeCrusadeRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases all damage dealt by 1%. Increased by an additional 1% against Demon and Undead targets.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/3. Its own author says it is “more Ret than Shock, you just get one more button” and that losing the Prot hit talent hurts. Converted from forever.oxm.gg.

From the Prot channel. Builds 20 to 22 were reconstructed from point lists on September 15; build 23 was a screenshot with no point list. Builds 36 to 46 are posted links from September 15 and 16, the day the Prot channel finally posted builds; 51 and 52 followed on September 16 and 17. Details on the Protection page.

Verdicts

36. Solid Prot: the first posted link the channel endorsed (“looks like a bis talent”). Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. 3, Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.; RedoubtRedoubtProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicDamaging melee attacks against you have a 10% chance to increase your chance to block by 6%. Lasts 10 sec or 5 blocks.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 5, PrecisionPrecisionProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to hit with all spells and attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., AnticipationAnticipationProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Defense Skill by 4.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 4, every mana and mitigation talent, ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 5, Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage.; DeflectionDeflectionRetribution · Max rank 5 · MovedIncreases your Parry chance by 5%.All ranks read from demo footage., Improved JudgementImproved JudgementRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicDecreases the cooldown of your Judgement ability by 2 sec.Requires 5 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. and Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Tweaks suggested: Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. for Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., and three points into One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text..
37. Deep Prot: the sketch several agreed on September 14, now a close cousin of 36. Reconstructed: ToughnessToughnessProtection · Max rank 5 · MovedIncreases your armor value from items by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. 3 and ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3 are the cut the channel described; RedoubtRedoubtProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicDamaging melee attacks against you have a 10% chance to increase your chance to block by 6%. Lasts 10 sec or 5 blocks.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and AnticipationAnticipationProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Defense Skill by 4.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. are my filler to reach Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage..
38. Block Prot: Deep Prot with One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 5 instead of ToughnessToughnessProtection · Max rank 5 · MovedIncreases your armor value from items by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. and Sacred DutySacred DutyProtection · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases your total Stamina by 2% and reduces the cooldown of your Divine Shield, Divine Protection, and Templar's Bulwark spells by 30 sec.Requires 10 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., for a fast weapon and block. Reply: two AnticipationAnticipationProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Defense Skill by 4.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. points into Sacred DutySacred DutyProtection · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases your total Stamina by 2% and reduces the cooldown of your Divine Shield, Divine Protection, and Templar's Bulwark spells by 30 sec.Requires 10 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Converted from Wowhead.
39. Threat Prot: “max threat, then adjust.” Keeps Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage. and Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., dips 17 into Ret for ConvictionConvictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Pursuit of JusticePursuit of JusticeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicIncreases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 8%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and Sacred ArbiterSacred ArbiterRetribution · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverIncreases the damage of your Holy Strike ability by 10% and causes it to refresh all Judgement effects on the target.Requires 15 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage.. Suggested: a ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. point into Improved Righteous FuryImproved Righteous FuryProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicWhile Righteous Fury is active, all damage taken is reduced by 2%.Requires 10 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., and Sanctified JudgementSanctified JudgementRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverGives your Judgement ability a 100% chance to return 60% of the Mana cost of the judged seal.Requires 10 points in RetributionThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. or CrusadeCrusadeRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases all damage dealt by 1%. Increased by an additional 1% against Demon and Undead targets.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. into Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. or Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage..
40. Pursuit Prot: Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage. plus Pursuit of JusticePursuit of JusticeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicIncreases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 8%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and Sacred ArbiterSacred ArbiterRetribution · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverIncreases the damage of your Holy Strike ability by 10% and causes it to refresh all Judgement effects on the target.Requires 15 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage.. Replies: swap Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. for hit or One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.; never skip Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text..
41. Shock Prot, linked: “this is the shockprot build.” Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. with Divine FavorDivine FavorHoly · Max rank 1 · Moved37 Mana | Instant | 2 min cooldownWhen activated, gives your next Flash of Light, Holy Light, or Holy Shock spell a 100% critical effect chance.Requires 15 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. and both Divine stat talents, Prot to Templar’s Bulwark, BenedictionBenedictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicReduces the Mana cost of all instant cast spells and abilities by 10%.This rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. and Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Judged an off-tank or off-healer build by several.
42. Shock Prot, Bulwark: Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage., Consecrated GroundConsecrated GroundHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverGives your Holy spells 5% increased damage against the first 4 enemies that enter your Consecration.Requires 20 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Divine PrecisionDivine PrecisionHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your chance to hit with Holy spells by 6%.Requires 20 points in Holy · Requires 1 point in Holy ShockMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/3 and Purifying PowerPurifying PowerHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Cleanse and Purify spells by 20% and reduces the cooldown of your Exorcism and Holy Wrath spells by 33%.Requires 10 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated., with One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3 in Prot. “Gigachad.” No Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage., no Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text..
43. Shock Prot, Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.: keeps Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 5/5 by stopping one point short of Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage.. The reply questioned a 5-point Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. without Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage..
44. Shock Prot, Healing LightHealing LightHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the amount healed by your Holy Light, Flash of Light, and Holy Shock spells by 12%.Requires 5 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated.: gives up Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage., DeflectionDeflectionRetribution · Max rank 5 · MovedIncreases your Parry chance by 5%.All ranks read from demo footage. and Improved JudgementImproved JudgementRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicDecreases the cooldown of your Judgement ability by 2 sec.Requires 5 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. for Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. as a ranged pull, threat tool and real instant heal. Could trade Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. points for Divine PrecisionDivine PrecisionHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your chance to hit with Holy spells by 6%.Requires 20 points in Holy · Requires 1 point in Holy ShockMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Converted from Wowhead.
45. Champion Prot: Prot to Templar’s Bulwark, then deep Ret for Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and CrusadeCrusadeRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases all damage dealt by 1%. Increased by an additional 1% against Demon and Undead targets.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Posted as “what do we really have to take for tanking?” Several think the best threat build ends up here; several call it a parse build.
46. Intellect Threat Tank: “the AI threat build, 0/23/28 Intellect to spell power.” No Holy points at all. The critique: tank plate has shown no Intellect, so the conversion may run on base Intellect alone. Converted from wowforevertalents.
47. VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Tank: “can we get enough crit for VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. while tanking?” ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 5 and Templar’s Bulwark, then Ret to VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Unanswered; one person calls it unfeasible.
48. Vigil Snap Prot: “what if we want even MORE burst and snap threat?” Light’s Vigil, Holy PowerHoly PowerHoly · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the critical strike chance of your Holy Shock spell by 3%, and all other spells by 1%.Requires 25 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Consecrated GroundConsecrated GroundHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverGives your Holy spells 5% increased damage against the first 4 enemies that enter your Consecration.Requires 20 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Divine PrecisionDivine PrecisionHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your chance to hit with Holy spells by 6%.Requires 20 points in Holy · Requires 1 point in Holy ShockMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. over a 19-point Prot core with Swift JudgementSwift JudgementProtection · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverInstant | 1 min cooldownFinishes the remaining cooldown on your Judgement ability and reduces the Mana cost of your next Judgement by 100%.Requires 15 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Improved Seal of FuryAll ranks read from demo footage.. Posted half as a joke with a full opener attached. The reply was “gonna snap my neck if I played a build like that”. No Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage., no Templar’s Bulwark.
49. Intellect Threat Tank, revised: the 0/23/28 idea with Shield SpecializationShield SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the amount of damage absorbed by your shield by 10%, and gives your blocks a 33% chance to restore 6% of your maximum Mana. May only occur once every 3 sec.Requires 10 points in Protection · Requires 5 points in RedoubtMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3 and Sacred DutySacred DutyProtection · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases your total Stamina by 2% and reduces the cooldown of your Divine Shield, Divine Protection, and Templar's Bulwark spells by 30 sec.Requires 10 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2 instead of One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and ToughnessToughnessProtection · Max rank 5 · MovedIncreases your armor value from items by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage.. Posted only to argue that a calculator lists Hammer of the Righteous, which it does because it imported Season of Discovery abilities; nobody discussed the build. Same critique as 45: no Intellect on tank plate so far.
50. Shock Prot: the September 14 split that started the idea, reconstructed from “23 Holy, 28 Prot, Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage., 10% holy damage” with my filler. Superseded by the linked rows above.
51. VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Prot: no seal games and it deals damage off-tank. The channel’s leveling-dungeon default. Reconstructed from “Ret to VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., rest Prot”; the Prot half is my filler.
52. Spell Power Tank: drops Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage. to bet on absorb scaling nobody has confirmed. No point list was posted, only a screenshot. Builds 44 and 45 are the linked versions of the idea.
53. Day-one placeholder: same split as 20, but posted by someone who said they had no idea. Ignore.

From the PvP channel. None depend on Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. Splits are read from the link encoding. Details on the PvP page.

Verdicts

11. Deep Ret: the PvP channel’s current favorite. Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. plus enough Holy for silence immunity and real self-heals.
12. Three-Tree Ret: Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. on top of the same Holy utility. A revised version exists (see the PvP page).
13. Stun Burst Ret: double Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. stun judge. Only with a pocket healer.
14. Shock Ret: Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. as the main button with Ret multipliers. Untested.
15. Holy ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.: ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. plus Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. and big heals. The most annoying build to fight.
16. Arena Vigil, PvP-channel variant: the Holy channel’s Arena Vigil with a slightly different Holy core. Skips the block-mana talent on purpose.
17. Arena Vigil, Ret dip: same Holy core, Ret dip for BenedictionBenedictionRetribution · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicReduces the Mana cost of all instant cast spells and abilities by 10%.This rank read from footage; other ranks estimated.-side value instead of Prot.
18. Holy/Prot Shockadin draft: takes one-hander damage over 6% damage reduction. Its author calls it rough.
19. ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Bulwark: ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and twisting can’t coexist, so the two-hander half is wasted. The converted link reads exactly 4/26/21 (Improved Holy StrikeImproved Holy StrikeHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the cooldown of your Holy Strike ability by 1 sec.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2, Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. 2 in Holy).
20. Holy ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., PrecisionPrecisionProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to hit with all spells and attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.: build 15’s Holy core with PrecisionPrecisionProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to hit with all spells and attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., ToughnessToughnessProtection · Max rank 5 · MovedIncreases your armor value from items by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Guardian’s Favor, Sacred DutySacred DutyProtection · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverIncreases your total Stamina by 2% and reduces the cooldown of your Divine Shield, Divine Protection, and Templar's Bulwark spells by 30 sec.Requires 10 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Improved Hammer of JusticeImproved Hammer of JusticeProtection · Max rank 3 · Same as ClassicDecreases the cooldown of your Hammer of Justice spell by 15 sec.Requires 15 points in ProtectionAll ranks read from demo footage. and Templar’s Bulwark in Prot instead of RedoubtRedoubtProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicDamaging melee attacks against you have a 10% chance to increase your chance to block by 6%. Lasts 10 sec or 5 blocks.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., AnticipationAnticipationProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Defense Skill by 4.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.. “Play like a healer, but now you have Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. and a double judge on top of the ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. stack.” Replies: RedoubtRedoubtProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicDamaging melee attacks against you have a 10% chance to increase your chance to block by 6%. Lasts 10 sec or 5 blocks.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. is dead weight with a two-hander, and IlluminationIlluminationHoly · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicAfter getting a critical effect from your Flash of Light, Holy Light, Light's Vigil, or Holy Shock heal spell you have a 40% chance to gain Mana equal to 50% of the base cost of the spell.Requires 15 points in Holy · Requires 3 points in ReverenceMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 2 text. is worth less in PvP than Improved SealsImproved SealsHoly · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 5%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text..